Member # 1330
posted 27. June 2004 22:25
The dialogue about Jeffrey Schwartz's book on Book Talk today was too short in many ways, which might be solved in this or a similar forum.
What was missing in it was mention of the buddhist notion of the simultaneity of cause and effect. Sure, cause and effect, volition and karma, resonate for buddhists and philosophers, and functional mri can tell us how volition can change consciousness; and sure, Michael was being a dumb academic critic to act as if he didn't have any first hand knowledge of volition or of mental focus. Maybe it is because only searchers and some others, such as idiot savants, have proven the effectiveness of focus to themselves beyond a reasonable doubt--i.e., they have come out of the can-do closet. People who have never let themselves pray have no idea that prayers being answered is a reality to others. Prayers being answered is something that happens in a probabilistic way. Things you have focused on means simultanously you have owned them/they are part of your gestalt/they have colored your perception, and you are much more likely to find something that you are looking for. Instead of letting someone ask about cognitive psychology at such a discussion and then running out of time, I would've loved to have seen a gestalt stooge planted there --Fritz--can you hear us now?
The nice thing about gestalt is it sticks to your ribs. It puts the quantum probabilities on the hotseat and says stay in one place, dammit, until you jolly well say something congruent, or at least until you tell your tormentor to buzz off.
Guys have to show they can walk the walk and talk the talk, or know how to throw themselves on the mercy of the judge. That part is not exactly boring, but may have been made more probable by evolution.
Academia is not for artists, other than con-artists.
...............sincerity may always be feigned, unless you find a way to spend some real time with yourself. That may be the benefit gained from any spiritual or meditative practice.
To some people spending time with yourself is an oxymoronic idea.(it's not an expense of time to spend it only on yourself) To others it's redundant or meaningless.That's because they are spiritual virgins. We have to take them by the hand, like a gestalter takes his inner child by the hand, and say yes, you are part of life--don't miss your own life. Fritz Perls was in the seduction business in that way--teaching people how to seduce their inner child back to the fold. These people in today's quantum mind arguments are really worried either that there is no fold, that it's merely a corpus callosum, or that they have to have a magic quantum tunnel slide to get back/forth. Microtubules with quantum whooshes don't excite me, DNA spirals as resonating crystals don't inspire awe, what really might be useful as a concept would be to understand if a beheading is proof that time, karma, and human mendacity are real and irreversible. If we can't do politics sincerely, then we can't do peace/we are soon dead meat.