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Icon 1 posted 29. December 2005 12:43      Profile for Passive_Observer2   Email Passive_Observer2   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I am not a heckler, nor am I trying to stir up trouble. I have a serious question about the CTMU and ID theories. I am new to this forum.

One implicit criticism of the CTMU, and intelligent design theories in general, is that while these models might appear to be logically consistent on the surface, logical consistency does not equate to "real world truth". Isn't this why the empirical method is so important, and why many scientists reject ID theory? We can't test the ideas directly. We must TEST a hypothesis or see unambiguous examples of it in the REAL WORLD before we make the mistake of filling in a void with a "God of the gaps".

Linus Pauling argued quite pursuasively that high doses of oral vitamin C could help prevent cancer. Although his arguments were internally consistent and creative, and sounded like they were probably true, they did not turn out to be valid in the real world.

Granted, you could argue that hard-nosed Darwinian evolutionists make their own unwarranted conjectures. However, aspects of Darwinian evolution can be observed in the natural world, in a multitude of ways, and hence drawing additional ideas from this model is based on actual empirical evidence. We aren't making a giant theoretical jump to fill in a gap. We are cautiously theorizing and waiting for more evidence. The theory isn't finalized, it is slowly "evolving".

This is what concerns me about the CTMU and ID theories. Trust me, I find ID a much more appealing alternative than pure reductionist materialism (which I find intellectually and emotionally depressing). But what I want to be true, and what IS true, are not the same thing.

Any thoughts or ideas on reframing my concerns will be appreciated. Am I missing something here? Is there really more to this than wishful thinking? Do you ever feel like you are deluding yourself because we all have a natural bias to find meaning and purpose in life (being that it is an emotionally stabilizing concept). Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated.

[ 29. December 2005, 12:44: Message edited by: Passive_Observer2 ]

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