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Topic: Systemic Morality and Moral Agency
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John 3
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posted 14. May 2002 11:02
"I would simply ask you: What is the "selection value" of The Magic Flute or the St Matthew Passion?" James A. Barham
I'm not familiar with those objects but I would assume they are culturaly selective.
Unless the emergance ermerges by non-physical means, I would have to argue that emergance would have to be reducable.
Of coarse I can not prove it. Can you disprove it? That there is a connection between life and nonlife processes?
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James A. Barham
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posted 14. May 2002 19:27
John 3:
Certainly, there is no question of "proving" anything in the sense of deductive logic. We are all just trying to make things make sense the best way we can, given all the evidence we are aware of. I just insist on taking purpose and value, both in the biofunctional and in the higher human sense, seriously as evidence.
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John 3
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posted 14. May 2002 21:19
"I just insist on taking purpose and value, both in the biofunctional and in the higher human sense, seriously as evidence."
Ok, but what evidence?
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Oh, this evidence.
"But at least from an emergentist perspective, where we view reality as consisting of a hierarchy of levels, each with its own qualitatively novel and irreducible laws, the existence of transitions to different kinds of novelty over the course of cosmic evolution begins to make sense."
I utterly agree. I believe there are levels in the process like octaves in the scale of complexity. But I believe there is one nature presiding over all these hierarchies. I believe that one level of reality starts competitave and chaotic but, through however means to reach agency, the system of reality at that level reaches a state of harmony at which point it enters, as a whole, into the new and chaotic reality.
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