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Martin

Good for you!

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
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Martin

The thread where I was disemvoweled no longer exists at Pharyngula, at least for my computer. What a tribute!

I love it so!

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
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Martin

P.Z. Meyers not only claims to be a liberal, but a godless atheist liberal as well.

Here is what it says on his masthead -

"Evolution, development and random biological ejaculations from a godless liberal." -

a curious application of the word "ejaculations" don't you think?

It doesn't get any better than this!

I love it so!

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
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John,

I hit on interesting reading from Adolf Portmann on web.
So I have no time for atheistic simpletons on Pharyngula.


Adolf Portmann can be considered to be antidarwinist. English version of wikipedia devoted him only few sentences. No works, nothing. Yet he was not only professor of zoology in Basel, but also chancellor (rektor) of University of Basel from 1947.
He was friend of C.G.Jung. He is considered to be one of the most prominent zoologists living in Europe.
He believed that mutation and natural selection alone could not solely account for species modification.

After second WW all German biological thinking was completely replaced by darwinism. According some philosophers this pre-war German thinking could be characterized by focusing its attention on embryology predominantly.
Some interesting Portman's remarks on development of embryo and human and other mammals forms could be found here. It seems like human resembles embryo most of all mammals. Its in German.
Ein Magel als Vorzug (A deficit as advantage):
http://www.zum.de/Faecher/kR/BW/krag/portm01.htm

His other work "Neue Wege der Biologie" could be find in Czech translation here:

http://apeia.eu/seed/view/S402880e40dcca6ea010dccae70da000a;jsessionid=aplmhkoele204

(btw. Google gives to Adolf Portmann "New paths in biology" only 30 items)

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Thank you Martin.

Random mutation and natural selection NEVER had ANYTHING to do with creative evolution. They can only produce intraspecific varieties. Also the experience of the adult has no effect on evolution either. It is only changes that take place during embryogenesis that have ever had an effect on evolution. Both Goldschmidt and Schindewolf clearly recognized this as I discussed in the Manifesto. Those changes were predetermined (prescribed) and took place on a schedule which was also predetermined. Chance played no role in either ontogeny or phylogeny just as Leo Berg proclaimed in 1922 -

"Neither in the one nor in the other is there room for chance."
Nomogenesis, page 134

I would only replace his "is" with "was" because I am convinced that creative evolution is finished and has been for a very long time. I repeat my challenge that man is the youngest mammal on this planet and in all probability the last mammal ever to appear.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A.Davison

We many critics of the Darwinian fairy tale have simply not been allowed to exist by either the Darwinians or the Christian Fundamentalists. That suits me just fine. As near as I can determine that is because none of us were atheists or religious fanatics.

"Then there are the fanatical atheists whose intolerance is the same as that of the religious fanatics, and it springs from the same source.... They are creatures who can't hear the music of the spheres."
Albert Einstein

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John,

facts that can be found in "Neue Wege der Biologie" are of interest. It seems to me now that common sense overestimate cells as basic "bricks" of embryonal development. Examples given there are really interesting for me as layman.

What should be noticed is darwnistic disregard of Portmann. You have already mentioned this phenomenon and Adolf Portmann seems to be another bright example supporting it.

Maybe it is correct observation I have read that independent evolutionary thinking based on German tradition survived only in other contries influenced by Germans - in Switzerland Portmann, Suchantke, in Czech Neubauer etc.
Anyway Schindewolf contradicts this rule, but he was from the old school.

Following results btw. fully support previous observation. Items found by Google:

German
"Adolf Portmann" "Neue Wege der Biologie" - 141 items.

Czech : "Adolf Portmann" "Nove cesty biologie" 65

English written pages:
New-paths-in-biology "Adolf Portmann" 14

I remind that in Czech it is available free on-line.

(Btw. the situation remind me that of Robert Broom.)

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Martin

Thanks.

It has always been the English speaking nations of America and Britain that have been the strongest supporters of Darwinism. After all Darwin was English. It is interesting that Grasse, a Frenchman, Schindewolf and Goldschmidt, Germans and Berg, a Russian, all rejected Darwinism. Even Bateson, an Englishman and the father of modern genetics finally realized that Mendelism with its allelic mutations had nothing whatsoever to do with evolution as I documented in the Manifesto and in my 1993 paper -

The "Blind alley". Its significance for evolutionary theory. Rivista di Biologia, 86: 101-111

These men and others are the sources forming the basis of the Prescribed Evolutionary Hypothesis, and I am delighted to join with them in exposing the Darwinian fairy tale. Even if the PEH proves to be inadequate, which I do not anticipate, nothing can possibly save the Darwinian myth from certain oblivion. What is remarkable is that it has persisted as long as it has. Soren Lovtrup called it a deceit. I call it a hoax conceived and then perpetuated by those who are congenitally incapable of recognizing purpose in every aspect of the universe. They are to be pitied as it may not even be their fault. They seem to have been "born that way" as the title of William Wright's book declares.

As Gilbert and Sullivan put it in their operetta Iolanthe (1882) -

"Every boy and every girl,
That is born into the world alive,
Is either a little liberal,
Or else a little conservative."

We are all victims of our "prescribed" fates. Some of us have been luckier than others.

"Everything is determined...by forces over which we have no control."
Albert Einstein

"A dwarf standing on the shoulders of a giant may see farther that a giant himself."
Robert Burton

I am proud to identify myself as that dwarf.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison

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Martin

My interview with Jason Rennie went very well. He made no attempt to guide my comments. He gave me free reign as he has done with others he has interviewed. That is very much to his credit.

What I find of special interest is who has NOT responded to his offers to be interviewed. Without naming names, that has included some very prominent spokespersons representing the opposing factions of the ongoing debate. It seems to me that if someone has firm convictions concerning his position he should be anxious to defend his views in a neutral venue such as Rennie provides with his Sciphishow. I was impressed with Michael Behe's willingness to participate. In any event, I look forward to any responses that may or may not appear to the material I presented. Past experience indicates I will either be ignored or denigrated. That is fine too. The important thing is to make one's convictions a matter of record. That I have always been happy to do wherever I am permitted.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
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Congratulation John.
It's nice that conception like yours are presented publicly. The more the better.

It's ridiculous when morons who believe in "selfish gene" banned others from their threads using childish pretexts. It's pity that such morons occupy almost all public media.

I will check link:

http://thesciphishow.com/

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Martin

I don't know when that interview will appear.

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John,

what do you think about Louis Bolk "neoteny" theory that humans are retarted in their development and resemble more embryo than other apes? Especially by their heads? He went so far that he held people for mature fetuses.

Considering facts as young chimpanzee are more human-like as adult apes are (they do not have muzzles as "children"), nacked skin of humans, forehead that marks up profile (unlike in other mammals), retardation in the development of the human dentiton etc... Bolk made many measurements in order to support his peculiar view.

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It makes excellent sense. We are very delayed in reaching maturity. Some of us never make it at all!

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
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http://richarddawkins.net/article,703,n,n

Be sure to visit here. It seems Richard Dawkins has written a poem celebrating the 50th birthday of his American crony, P.Z. Meyers.

"Birds of a feather flock together."
Cervantes

It is hard to believe isn't it?

I love it so!

It doesn't get any better than this.

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
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Jason Rennie, the host of Sciphishow where I was recently interviewed, provided me with the following history of his requests for interviews.

William Dembski was too busy. The following failed even to respond - Richard Dawkins, P.Z. Meyers, William Provine, Wesley Elsberry and Jonathan Wells. I have no idea who else he may have invited. Michael Behe, to his credit, responded and has indicated his willingness to return. Isn't it interesting that some of the most prominent figures in the present scene are either unable or unwilling to participate in a thoroughly neutral venue such as the Sciphishow? Imagine, if you can, being too busy for a thirty minute interview. I have difficulty accepting such a posture. Perhaps my interview, when it appears, will serve to stimulate some sort of response from any or all of my several adversaries some of whom are listed above. Then again, perhaps it won't. I am betting on the latter. Time of course will tell. It always has and always will.

"When you tell the truth, you can be certain, sooner or later, to be found out."
Oscar Wilde

I love it so!

"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
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https://www2.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8514599844429716727&postID=4750883583099806658

I call your attention to this thread and my commment #19 on Kristine's blog - "Female Triumvirate of Evolution Experts," a blog title for which I must take credit as it is obviously dedicated to my earlier characterization of Kristine and the other two "evolution experts."

I suspect she will either modify it substantially or delete it entirely. I am sure we will soon see.

I love it so!

"A past evoloution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
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