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Topic: John A. Davison: An Evolutionary Manifesto: A New Hypothesis For Organic Change
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posted 20. August 2007 06:43
Who does Dawkins quote? He quotes Dawkins! Who do you clowns from ATBC quote? One another! It is wonderfully revealing.
I laugh at your mouthings as they have nothing to do with the great mystery of organic evolution. It is only the MECHANISM of organic evolution that is unknown, a mechanism in which Darwinism played no role whatsoever. Natural selecion is ENTIRELY anti-evolutionary. It always was!
Got that? Write that down!
Stop making fools of yourselves here and send over your fearless leader, that great fisheries biologist, Wesley Elsberry, who has never published a word on the mechanism of organic evolution, the only issue ar stake. Neither has P.Z. Myers, Ernst Mayr, Stephen J. Gould, William Provine or any other Darwinian mystic. Darwinism is a disaster as an explanatory thesis. It is not even the "random walk" which they all must assume it to be! It is nothing but an imagined invention of mentalities that are genetically incapable of recognizing order and purpose in the world around them.
My several sources all saw through the Darwinian hoax long ago. The only reason they are unrecognized is because homozygous atheist blowhards like Gould, Mayr, Dawkins. Hitchens and Provine have pretended they never existed. My Providence, and I use that word with its literal meaning, is to restore my six major sources to the prominence they deserve as the real pioneers of evolutionary science. When I quote them it is because they presented the unvarnished truth, free from ideology and the congenital blindness with which every atheist Darwinian is so obviously burdoned. They are, to a man, not only blind but stone deaf as well, like nearly all pure white cats, and for exactly the same genetic reasons. They were "born that way," helpless victims of their "prescribed" fate.
Einstein recognized this sixty-seven years ago -
"Then there are the fanatical atheists whiose intolerance is the same as that of the religious fanatics, and it springs from the same source....They are creatures who can't hear the music of the spheres."
Alice Calaprice, The New Quotable Einstein, page 204.
So carry on with your mindless ravings. It is music to my ears, ears that hear Einstein's "music of the spheres" loud and clear!
It is hard to believe isn't it?
I love it so!
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison
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posted 20. August 2007 09:21
arjun
Of course the hard core porn was removed and it wasn't spam! It was produced by one of the regulars at ATBC. It was removed because I called attention to it and for no other reason. I will continue to expose Elsberry's "inner sanctum" as the degenerate, repulsive enclave it has become as long as I am allowed to view it from this computer.
Folks, don't be surprised if Elsberry now does what Dawkins' fans and ARN have already done - deny me viewing privileges. Cowardly, insecure homozygous ideologues have no other recourse.
Come on Wesley, show the whole world what you are really made of - hypercompacted intellectual trash!
It doesn't get any better than this!
I love it so!
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison
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posted 20. August 2007 10:06
oldmanintheskydidn'tdoit, another cowardy alias of course and a chronic habitue and contributor at After The Bar Closes, Wesley Elsberry's "inner sanctum," "our forum," the most elegant example of moral, ethical and cultural degeneration in the history of internet communication.
You want a list of those who keep on perpetuating the hoax? There are tens of thousands of them led by some of the biggest phonies in the history of science, poor genetically predetermined disasters like Ernst Mayr, Stephen J. Gould, Christopher Hitchens, William Provine, P.Z. Myers and last, far from the least, Richard Dawkins, the most virulent, the most arrogant, the most self-deluded atheist that ever trod the surface of the earth, living proof that we are all victims, each of our "prescribed" fate. We are all victims in a determined universe just as Einstein always insisted. Some were luckier than others. The six I have listed are quintessential losers in the lottery of life. I regard myself and my several sources as among the lucky ones.
It is getting easier to believe each day isn't it?
I love it so!
"No sadder proof can be given by a man of his own littleness than disbelief in great men."
Thomas Carlyle
"A past evolution is undeniable a present evolution undemonstrable "
John A. Davison
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posted 20. August 2007 12:02
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Of course the hard core porn was removed and it wasn't spam! It was produced by one of the regulars at ATBC. It was removed because I called attention to it and for no other reason. I will continue to expose Elsberry's "inner sanctum" as the degenerate, repulsive enclave it has become as long as I am allowed to view it from this computer.
I doubt you believe this yourself.
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It doesn't get any better than this!
I have come to the same conclusion with regard to your comments.
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We are all victims in a determined universe just as Einstein always insisted.
Then why waste time posting if it changes nothing, or is that determined too?
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posted 20. August 2007 12:34
arjun, another cowardly alias of course.
I believe I will ignore any more comments from you until you disclose your real name and your credentials as a student of organic evolution. I am especially interested in your publications. The same for oldmanintheskydidn'tdoit, another anonymous, unpublished animal from "Elsberry's Last Stand," the "Alamo of Darwinian mysticism."
I expose charlatans and cowards wherever I find them because it is my destiny, just as it is yours to behave like a fool. It is a dirty job but somebody just HAD finally to do it. I find it very rewarding. Indeed -
I love it so!
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison
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posted 20. August 2007 15:05
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"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison
So, common descent is not an issue. Modification is not an issue. Modification, according to the PEH, occurs in saltational steps, and endogenously, and incidentally the process is finished.
Just out of curiosity, how then, does, for example a blue whale find itself in the southern ocean and a golden mole find itself in the Sahara desert, when the environment "had nothing to do with it"?
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posted 20. August 2007 15:43
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You want a list of those who keep on perpetuating the hoax?
Do you typically characterize everybody who holds an opinion different to yours as a hoaxer?
In any case, the believe what they espouse therefore it's not a hoax, as least as far as they are concerned.
Find some better words.
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Darwinism is a disaster as an explanatory thesis
So a couple hundred words (Your Paper) describes reality better then the combined output of tens of thousands of scientists working for decades?
OK.
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posted 20. August 2007 20:38
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The answer to your last question is YES. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, in the Darwinian HOAX, yes HOAX, that ever had anything whatsoever to do with creative evolution, a phenomenon of the distant past.
It is the enormous volume of Darwinian nonsense that is the perfect proof of its failure. Not one word of it is verifiable beyond the elaboration of intraspecific varieties. That is all that Darwin demonstrated in 1859 and nothing has changed in the century and a half since. The vast majority of all species have been immutable just as Linnaeus, Owen, Agassiz and Cuvier all instinctively recognized. I defy anyone to demonstrate a progressive creative evolution in any higher organism today.
"Aren't our plants, our animals lacking some mechanisms which were present in the early flora and fauna?"
Pierre Grasse, Evolution of Living Organisms, page 71
They sure are Pierre!
Please note the conflict presented by his book title with the question he asked. Actually his question should have been the book title!
It is getting easier to believe isn't it
I love it so!
"A past evolution is undeniable,a present evolution undemonstable."
John A. Davison
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posted 20. August 2007 20:59
Arjun, whoever that is of course.
There is every reason to believe that evolution was planned from beginning to end. The various environments were also planned. There is not a scintilla of evidence rendering this interpretation erroneous.
"I believe there is a Plan....and we may feel sure that it cannot fail to meet its goal."
Robert Broom, Finding the Missing Link, page 101.
"Everything is determined...by forces over which we have no control."
Albert Einstein
This is nothing but good old fashioned teleology, and there is nothing wrong with that. It sure beats the Darwinian hoax and, in my opinion, it is the only conceivable explanation.
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison
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posted 21. August 2007 02:45
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...in my opinion...
Unfortunately, science is not a matter of opinion. We are back to philosophical musings.
You seem not to disagree with: quote:
So, common descent is not an issue. Modification is not an issue. Modification, according to the PEH, occurs in saltational steps, and endogenously, and incidentally the process is finished.
but you did not respond to: quote:
Just out of curiosity, how then, does, for example a blue whale find itself in the southern ocean and a golden mole find itself in the Sahara desert, when the environment "had nothing to do with it"?
other than to boldly assert that the environment was also planned.
How do you account for organisms having features which suit their particular niche in the environment, temporally and spacially? How is front-loading able to put each design into its particular niche?
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posted 21. August 2007 05:45
Arjun, whoever that is,
If I knew the answers to all potential questions I would provide them. It is the Darwinians that can answer all your questions so I suggest you address your questions to them. They are never at a loss to explain anything. Their answer is always the same - natural selection, which never had anything to do with creative evolution.
Bye now.
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
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posted 21. August 2007 07:10
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Their answer is always the same - natural selection, which never had anything to do with creative evolution.
Well, it seems at least plausible to suggest that the observation that blue whales do not exist in the Sahara but do exist in the world's oceans may have something to do with the environment.
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posted 21. August 2007 08:46
Oh most anonymous Arjun,
It probably did at one time but not now. When the environment disappears so do all those species endemic to it. All we see today is extinction without a single new species KNOWN to have been naturally produced in recent times. Some species, like the Cheetah, are on the road to extinction for what seem to be predetermined reasons. The Dinaosaurs, like the giant amphibians before them, all would have disappeared even without any catastrophic events. Extinction, like the death of the individual, has always been an intrinsic feature of the evolutionary process. It is all that now remains. Trust me but of course you won't. I wouldn't want you to anyway as it would spoil my fun.
"La commedia e finita."
Pagliacci
I love it so!
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison
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posted 21. August 2007 11:33
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Some species, like the Cheetah, are on the road to extinction for what seem to be predetermined reasons.
You may be incorrect about the cheetah; it was considered an endangered species in the '60s, but was removed from the endangered list in 1986. (Some Asian subspecies are still at risk). The loss of habitat is considered pivotal in its decline.
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The Dinaosaurs (sic), like the giant amphibians before them, all would have disappeared even without any catastrophic events.
This would have happened because...? Would there be any evidence to support this assertion?
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Extinction, like the death of the individual, has always been an intrinsic feature of the evolutionary process.
OK.
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It is all that now remains.
Is there any evidence supporting the assertion that evolutionary processes, which you agree have occurred, have now ceased?
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Trust me
Hardly a convincing scientific stance. Evidence supporting your assertions would be helpful.
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posted 21. August 2007 13:00
Arjun
You have now firmly established by your questions that you are a voluntary illiterate.
Stop interrogating me. Just declare victory and go away. It is obvious you are not interested in learning anything from me. Accordingly, I will no longer respond to you. That also goes for oldmanintheskydidn'tdoit or any other anonymous blowhard associated in any way with Panda's Thumb. Now, like the good little Darwinian that you seem to be, be sure to have the last word with some insulting parting shot.
I will be happy to respond to Wesley Elsberry, Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens or P.Z. Myers here or anywhere else. I don't care any longer to deal with the loyal members of their Godless team, especially anonymous cowards like yourself and oldmanintheskydidn'tdoit.
It is easy to believe isn't it?
I love it so!
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison
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