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Topic: John A. Davison: An Evolutionary Manifesto: A New Hypothesis For Organic Change
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posted 21. October 2007 10:16
Continuing my apparent monologue here, I want to call attention to what I regard as the most important book yet to be published on the subject of global warming. I refer to "The Weather Makers" by Australian naturalist and scientist Tim Flannery. I only recently discovered this book and I recommend that every thinking person give it very serious consideration.
One reason I recommend it is because he has independently reached the same conclusion as myself that it is probably already too late to reverse the trends that indicate the demise of civilization as we know it.
I reached my conclusion on purely energetic grounds using the modern automobile as a typical example. A 200 horsepower automobile, while in operation, is producing CO2 at a rate approximately 2000 times that of the operator. This follows from the fact that a 70 kg person at rest is a chemical oxidizing machine of around 80 watts or about a tenth of a horsepower (746/10) watts. Of course those are trivial emissions compared with the coal powered generators still providing most of the power for the world's developed nations. In reality the situation is much more dire because, unlike both the oxidation of coal and other fossil fuels, animal metabolism does not produce the particulate emissions that are so significant as atmospheric pollutants and accordingly as climate regulators.
In any event I strongly recommend this book for every thinking observer of the current geo-political scene. Those who continue to deny human influenced climate change and species extinction are, in my opinion, just as dangerous as are those who seek our destruction through terrorist means.
The only solution I foresee requires the reduction of the world's human population by at least two orders of magnitude from 7 billion to no more than 70 million, a value very roughly that prior to the industrial revolution. That reduction is most likely to occur as a result of pandemic disease. It is, in my opinion, our only hope if we are to survive as a species. Otherwise, the twenty-first century may prove to be the last for again, in my opinion, the youngest and last mammalian species that will ever appear - Homo sapiens.
I would appreciate any thoughtful responses and will be surprised should they appear.
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison
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posted 21. October 2007 12:33
Here's a thoughtful comment for your consideration.
Anthropogenic global warming and alarmist projections thereof are a result of a groupthink second only to the Darwinian evolution groupthink. It's hard to believe, isn't it?
LOL
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posted 21. October 2007 17:15
I see the great DaveScot/David Springer has no problem posting here. Thanks Dave for once again exposing yourself as the intellectual tyrant you so often have proven to be.
http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/yet-another-prominent-environmental-scientist-disputes-global-warming-alarmism/#comments
This little offering from you just today is a perfect example of your insufferable egoism and hide-bound arrogance. You are a blight on the face of reason and a hideous detriment to Uncommon Descent. Dembski should be ashamed of himself for having anything to do with you. Thanks for reminding us that you are still in charge at Uncommon Descent.
It doesn't get any better than this.
I love it so!
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison
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posted 22. October 2007 06:23
Does DaveScot's terse little comment constitute a "thoughful response?" I sure don't think so. What say others or are they unable or perhaps afraid to speak?
It is hard to believe isn't it?
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison
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posted 22. October 2007 08:37
David Springer/DaveScot's latest source, S. Fred Singer, is skeptical not only about the reality of anthropogenic global warming. Here, according to Wikipedia, are a couple of others he has dismissed as of little consequence. Second hand smoke and lung cancer and, believe it or not, he has even questioned a causal relationship between UV radiation and melanoma, one of the most devastating, well documented and preventable forms of cancer. Springer is really scraping the bottom of his blatantly biased barrel by resorting to such sources as S. Fred Singer.
It is hard to believe isn't it?
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison
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posted 22. October 2007 14:27
I have been copying this thread to Ben Stein's blog and to any other venue where I am allowed. I will continue to do so as long as I am permitted.
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison
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posted 22. October 2007 17:03
Ben Stein will be on O'Reilly's Factor tonight, October 22. I presume he will be pushing his movie "Expelled."
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posted 23. October 2007 02:03
On August 30th in Brainstorms Davison writes:
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I do not regard Wikipedia as a valid source and I am sure I am not alone!
Then on October 22nd, Davison forgets what he wrote seven weeks ago and uses Wikipedia to support a Geneti c Fallacy concerning Fred Singer:
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Here, according to Wikipedia, are a couple of others he has dismissed as of little consequence.
Hard to believe, isn't it?
ROLMAO
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posted 23. October 2007 06:22
Wikipdia is not all bad Dave. Since you insist on baiting me here, I challenge you to do what I do and copy these pages elsewhere so all can see which of us represents the real world, a world in desperate straits. Copy these pages at Uncommon Descent. You won't of course because Dembski wouldn't allow it for the same reason that I am ignored by Myers, Dawkins and Elsberry. There is only one reason for this universal response. It is fear - fear of the unvarnished truth which is that neither side of this idiotic debate has a leg to stand on.
You are nothing but a cowardly, power crazed, unprincipled bully. Just because you terrorize the clientele at Uncommon Descent doesn't mean that you have any influence over me. There is only one thing that you can do to me and that is shut me up as you already have twice done at Uncommon Descent That is all that anyone can do to me. I couldn't care less what you think or what you do anyway. Do what you have to do, what you were "prescribed" to do. We are all victims in a determined universe. You are one of the most pathetic, the bottom of the ethical barrel.
"Our actions should be based on the ever-present awareness that human beings in their thinking, feeling, and acting ARE NOT FREE but are just as causally bound as the stars in their motion."
Albert Einstein, my emphasis.
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison
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posted 23. October 2007 08:57
Meanwhile, a half a million have been forced to evacuate Southern California and Atlanta Georgia may have to be evacuated as well as anthropogenic climate changes continue inexorably to ravage the earth.
Those, like David Springer, who ridicule these realities, deserve all the contempt I am more than willing to heap upon them wherever I am allowed. I regard it as my sacred responsibility as citizen and scientist.
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison
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posted 23. October 2007 15:43
What says the great David Springer, the biggest and most arrogant bully in cyberdom? Or is he a coward as well? Apparently he and I are the only participants here. I love those odds. Come out from behind Dembski's skirts and behave like a man. If you refuse I will broadcast that as well.
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
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posted 24. October 2007 05:45
Where is Springer? Schoolyard bullies are like that. They often wilt when publicly challenged.
"Don't you just love a bargain?"
motto of the Christmas Tree Shops.
"A past evolution is undenible, a present evolution undemonstrable."
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posted 24. October 2007 06:02
http://www.uncommondescent.com/off-topic/global-warming-puzzle-amazon-rain-forest-getting-greener/#respond
Instead, he persists in continuing to deny the obvious which is that man has drastically damaged his environment. I note there are no responses yet to his latest rosy interpretations. His remaining clientele, those whom he has not already banned, are probably terrified to open their mouths.
It is hard to believe isn't it?
I love it so!
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
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posted 24. October 2007 18:07
As expected DaveScot/David Springer refuses to respond to my request to discuss global warming here. Instead he has introduced two more threads ridiculing those who regard it as a threat.
I don't have either the time or the inclination to follow all his devious machinations but I will offer some revelations about one one of his sources, S. Fred Singer.
"The Leipzig Declaration is a particularly interesting case in point. This document appeared in 1985, penned by Fred Singer, and purported to have the signatures of seventy-nine scientists from leading universities who subscribe to the view that climate change is not a threat. On investigation, however, the majority of the signatories were found not to be scientists or had not signed the declaration."
Tim Flannery, The Weather Makers, page 244.
Incidentally, Singer, is a member of Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church, but then so is Jonathon Wells, a member of the "Discovery Institute: A Christian Institution." It makes one wonder doesn't it?
As to Springer's naive "greener is better" philosophy based on the presumed lush growth of the rain forests -
"It turns out that trees benefit far more than shrubs or grasses from increases in CO2, and the species which benefit least are grasses belonging to a group that includes our most important crops. Rice, for example, showed an increase in yield of only 6 percent in response to a doubling of CO2, while wheat yields only increased by 8 percent. In future, crops will be stressed by higher temperature, more ozone at ground level, and changes in soil moisture, all of which will decrease yields."
page 207.
Furthermore, in nature, CO2 is very rarely if ever a limiting factor and probably is not one even for the rainforests. It is only under laboratory conditions that CO2 limitation can even be demonstrated and that with difficulty. Water, mineral nutrients, pH, light intensity and temperature are the usual limiting factors.
So much for Dave Springer, his questionable sources, and his abysmal ignorance and arrogant denial of the greatest threat ever faced by the human species, increasing levels of CO2 and its effects, including global warming, on the future of the planet.
It is hard to believe isn't it?
"A past evolution is undeniable, a present evolution undemonstrable."
John A. Davison
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posted 25. October 2007 00:29
Dear John,
Your writing is repetitive and boring. Your repetoire of insults, one of more of which appear in each tiny screed you peck out on your keyboard like a spastic old hen, is admittedly large but after reading thousands of your prosaic ejaculations there's nothing new to be seen there either.
Sorry about that but it is what it is. You bore me and that's why I don't interact with you often anymore. The reason I don't allow you to post on Uncommon Descent however is that you embarrass us. It's an unfortunate situation because your expert insights into the great mystery of organic evolution, the great majority of which I still find compelling, would otherwise be quite welcome.
Yawningly yours,
Dave
P.S. Rice grain yields increased 60% in outdoor field tests with elevated CO2. Yield peaked at 28C and then declined 10% for each additional degree. Even the global warming hysterics readily admit that average temperatures will only increase a few degrees at most. The cool thing about temperature though is you can compensate for an undesirable increase by shifting either your growing season and/or your latitude. In any case the actual grain yield increase obtained from elevated CO2 are still double any losses engendered by projected temperature increases.
http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/43/7/959
In addition to increased grain yield elevated CO2 also reduces the impact of drought. Rice grown in the field at elevated CO2 levels consumed 10% less water.
http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/publications/publications.htm?SEQ_NO_115=147621
Thanks for playing but try to use better sources of data in the future. It's boring having to constantly correct your mistaken assertions.
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