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Pim van Meurs
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posted 08. July 2003 23:47
Nelson: If we can't find a flagellum that uses only one rod protein, then a good conclusion to make is that the function requires the three proteins and one protein isn't enough. Certainly it seems that science through knock out experiments would might come to a similar conclusion.
And then? What do we do from then onward? What does this knowledge gain us? Does it establish that no instance of less than three proteins could make for a functional flagellum? Or does it help us understand how a precursor to the flagellum may have had a different function? I am curious as to your thoughts on this matter
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andyg
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posted 09. July 2003 14:40
[Nelosn:
QUOTE] No, just trying to best explain the data. If we can't find a flagellum that uses only one rod protein, then a good conclusion to make is that the function requires the three proteins and one protein isn't enough.
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Only in the context of the function of modern flagella and the modern flagellar rod proteins. The above statement does not address the possibility of a single rod protein with perhaps a different function (or multiple functions) being replaced by three divergent copies.
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Josh
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posted 09. July 2003 17:14
Regarding publications and the rumours of computer simulations... I went to the Design Conference in Kansas found here:
http://www.intelligentdesignnetwork.org/june_symposim.htm
Where I attended Behe's lecture and was able to speak with him personally. Probably due to the audience he did not spend in depth time on the model he was developing concerning limits to protein evolution, however there were some impressive looking slides (he skipped through them rather quickly) and he told me that he was working to have the data published. I have checked pubmed throughout the year for any new Behe publications without coming up with anything. Perhaps all this will be settled in time as Behe polishes his ideas and gets the data published.
We'll see, in the meantime this endless banter amounts to nothing (unless you're interested primarily in what qualifies as science for presentation in the public school system.)
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