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Salvador T. Cordova
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Icon 1 posted 13. November 2003 11:25      Profile for Salvador T. Cordova     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Gedanken's post on motives stimulated my thinking. I decided to start a new thread that explores reliability and demonstration of an ID filter.

The gist of this thread is detecting intelligent design in chemicals. This issue is not limited to origin science. Because of the rise of nano-technology, there will be copyright and patent law issues, and detecting ID (albeit human ID) at the molecular level will be significant. However, filters that detect human ID and reject random or "naturally" occurring chemicals can then be applied to biological systems.

For consideration, one class of chemicals is polymers whose monomer elements have a limited likelihood of existing naturally, low occurrence of bonding, and no 100% guarantee of bonds between any given monomer, although there may be favorable bonds, just as long as there are not inevitable bonds. Crystalline structures would thus be ruled out since bonding is likely.

These filters should be sufficient for any committee of chemists to conclude a polymer was synthetic or biological. The filter may reject some polymers developed by intelligent processes, but it must absolutely reject 100% non-intelligently developed polymers. The filter is thus falsifiable. It is sufficient to demonstrate intelligent design, but not necessary.

Consider a monomer alphabet represented by letters of the English alphabet: A,B,C,D,E....

A polymer linearly laid out of the form

AAAABBBBCCCCDDDD......QQQQ

found in a test tube where there are multiple instances of this molecule would be deduced to be of intelligent origin.

Consider the gibberish polymer

QORDZLXCWQRLGVALTLJYHZPQIHHAHZBCMNVNBQUETOPPLJAPQIHHAHY......

Even a gibberish polymer of given length would be considered intelligently designed if duplicates of the molecule exist anywhere. As in my correlation post, anything with a replica is automatically specified.

Because the given polymer is both complex and specified, it is considered of intelligent origin automatically if it is not a biological polymer. However some forms of ID do not distinguish intelligently designed and biological polymers.

This issue came up as there is some discussion of using DNA as a memory storage device (not that I think it's practical, but it gave me ideas). The significance of this method is that one does not need to invoke function or necessity of the polymer or motive for creation to conclude it was intelligently designed.

[ 13. November 2003, 14:31: Message edited by: Salvador T. Cordova ]

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